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PostPosted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 9:49 pm    Post subject: FW 26 Reply with quote

Can anyone tell me what was talkings about in topic "Fw26 pro SXG75"?

Why it was locked and is this really working fw version?

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 9:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It was locked as we concurred that the SVN26 brings no improvement after SVN22.
A few new bugs were also decsribed - unable to run 240*320 video in fullscreen mode, for example. And the Czech T9 is still unusable.
There is still no possibility of free browsing (via joystick) in File Explorer.

We have to wait for latest versions. Neutral


***EDIT there were some voices on modopo.com that this FW26 was one of the latest for SXG and the development of newer FW versions will be stopped in the near future - due to bad results of selling of this phone (buggy software, small interest of people, ...) Exclamation
But since I´ve read about the E81 (on BREW platform, too Dancing ), I thought it was a BULLSHIT. The development of BREW platform (also for SXG) has to continue! Dancing 8)

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 11:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In my opinion there will be no other FW after FW26, because BenQ-Siemens don't produce new FW for SXG75. As far as I know we will have to live with SVN22. Sad
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 3:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi.

I would tell that I was able to update without forced Customization update.

For FW 26 only 4 files needed and QPST!

Code:
EF81                  SXG75
Partition.mbn         W5V026.qpart
AMSS.mbn              W5V026.qapp
AMSSHD.mbn            W5V026.qapphd


And maybe NPRG6250SEC.HEX. But better is.

I have no Data lost, no SMS, no Pictures....

Maybe if someone tried this with EF81 also success available?

Problems could be: U need SPC for QPST.

I tell later details.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 4:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Supa... ! Dancing (I have read this your article on modopo yet Smile )

Without the customization, will the native langpack (containing Czech language) stay here after update?

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 5:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, because I have my russian, ukrain, polski... like before.

This is like the first official Selfupdate FW22. No destroy of any settings or delete of important Data.

The easier way must be, only use the old 3GSwup from RU FW22.
But not tried. Embarassed This would also better for the EF81 User.

I need a little bit more Time. Then I give an "instruction"...

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 5:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

-=[LCW]=-ExXtReMe wrote:
In my opinion there will be no other FW after FW26, because BenQ-Siemens don't produce new FW for SXG75. As far as I know we will have to live with SVN22. Sad

If there wont be any, we will make one Smile
Or at least patch it as in case of SX1 8)

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 9:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Bezy.

Now I can better sleep. Angel After I tried FW40 from EF81 to Flash.
Flashing was an success, but SXG75 never start. Crying or Very sad

With Help of the official FW22 Selfupdate I reanimate my SXG75. Razz

Maybe this could be real. Someone find the Error with FW26 "Fullvideoshrink", Patch this and we have FW27a.

Best Regards

Here German Version of How To:
http://mitglied.lycos.de/adfree/version1.pdf

I think the Screenshots can Help...
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 9:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can´t believe that it is so unreal simple... Dancing
The impossibility of FS video doesn´t matters to me at all, so I can upgrade to 26 now (and to 27a or 32 gleich nachher )...

BTW could we think, that the crazy asian-people will can finally download (via WAP or via any similar net-providers´ shits at least ) some BREW into their E81? Or there will be the BREW UI just for trappings (like in EF81/xXx75?)? 8)

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 12:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The easiest way.

Use Flasher from FW22!

Code:
W5V026.qapp---------->W5V022.qapp
W5V026.qapphd-------->W5V022.qapphd


Copy the renamed files in the FW22 Folder.

Choose only Software update!
NO Customization update.

Be happy, with new Firmware and nothing is deleted.

I have try this by myself.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 2:42 pm    Post subject: Attention Reply with quote

There are compatibility problems with the "old" Version of 3GSwup from FW22.
The Update dont start.

U can't kill the QPST process in Task manager...

One of these programs blocks?:
QPST
(QXDM also use QPST Server...)
newer Version installed of 3GSwupFU2

My Solution was only install FW22 on an clean XP.

But if someone could try, which QPST to unistall?

Yes, Qualcomm and BQS sucks...
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 7:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My solution is a bit more discreet (you haven´t go to your neighbor or even a girlfriend, when you wanna try the update on a "clear" PC )

Arrow 0. So the update is failing with this fucking error: Mobile was found but its modem interface is already used. Please close application that uses COMX Or wait a while until that applications release port.
Yeah. What a bad joke.

Arrow 1. Uninstall the USB-drivers (via 3GUSBInstall.exe)
Arrow 2. Change the COM of any of your PC device in the Device manager -> COM&LPT ports (I changed the Communicating port - from COM2 to COM4, for example. No reboot was required in my case.)
Arrow 3. Then Install the USB-drivers again
Arrow 4. Then connect the phone to PC. The drivers will install step by step and then you will be asked to REBOOT your PC. (this reboot relates with the previous changes in COM numbers)

Arrow 5. After reboot will be your phone COMs assigned to higher numbers.
The Modem interface mentioned by the error popup will be on COM(X+2) (in my case) now and the fucking error will not occur anymore. Dancing
Now you can do the update straight away.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 1:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Postup po česku:
(jakékoliv překládání do jiných jazyků, zejména do němčiny a šíření tohoto odkazu je vřele doporučováno, ba přikázáno 8) )

***FOR ENGLISH OR GERMAN VISITORS - THIS IS ONLY THE CZECH TRANSLATION OF adfree´s "HOW TO" ABOUT INSTALLING FW26 WITHOUT DATA LOST (+ SOME KNOWN NOTICES OF THE FW26´S BEHAVIOUR).***



Soubory W5V026.qapp (33 503 040 b) a W5V026.qapphd (40 b) z FW26 je nutno přejmeovat na W5V022.qapp a W5V022.qapphd a hodit je do FW22 (bavíme se o složkách s tím instalátorem FW v Program Files/Siemens/3GSwupFU).


Spusťte Startup.exe a pak dejte pryč fajfku u Customization a Continue...
jestli instalace proběhne OK, přeskočte k dalšímu odstavci (2) ;-)

(1) Jestli to po deseti vteřinách Connectování zahlásí v angličtině, že "telefon byl nalezen, ale port modemu je používán jinou aplikací - počkejte, až se uvolní", tak je potřeba dosáhnout toho, aby se ovladače k telefonu nainstalovaly na JINÝ porty, aby ta hláška zmizela.

Toho se dosáhne jedině tak, že se spustí 3GUSBInstall.exe, zatrhne se Remove, a cca minutu počkáte, až se objeví hláška, že je odinstalováno.
Pak kliknete na ploše na Tento počítač, pravým myšítkem vyberete "Spravovat", vlezete do "Správce zařízení" a vyberete "Porty - COM a LPT".
Teď přijde na řadu spíš instinkt - já jsem třeba změnil "Komunikační port COM2" na COM4. Ani nevim, k čemu tam takový věci jsou, klavku i myš mám v USB, a navíc to po té změně portu (v Natsavení portu - Upřesnit) ani nechtělo restart.

Jestli vám to dopadlo jako v mém případě - změnili jste nějaký komunikační port na vyšší COM a to vše bez nutnosti restartu, pusť te 3GUSBInstall.exe (telefon by měl bejt odpojen) a nainstalujte ovladače (to trvá okamžik).
Pak teprve připojte telefon k PC, postupně budou skákat okna, že to našlo telefon, pak NMEA zažízení, pak modem telefonu (některé věci se objeví i víckrát za sebou) a na konci by to po po vás mělo chtít RESTART PC (to pravděpodobně souvisí s tou změnou toho portu, kterou jste dřív provedli ve Správci zařízení - instalátor prostě zjistil, že porty pro telefon (Telefon, Diagnostic interface, NMEA, modem telefonu) už nebudou moci být na číslech jako dřív, ale na jiných (u mě o dvě čísla vyšších - to je podmíněno tím "posunem" čísla u toho jakéhosi komunikačního portu).

Po restartu by mělo být vsjo OK, telefon na jiných portech, tím pádem ta hláška, která způsobovala nefunkčnost updatu, je pryč. Můžete směle nahrát ten COOL FW26, to vše bez ztráty veškšerých dat a předinstalovaného rodného jazyka.

(2) COOL?

žádné zrychlení v nabídkách menu ani při startupu/shutdownu, chyby v počeštění samozřejmě zůstávají, nikde se nic nezměnilo (hehe, konečně to připomíná starou dobrou instalaci FW na starších Siemensech, kdy jsou nováčci na větvích, že "je to pořád všechno stejný"), akorát video nejde přehrávat ve Fullscreenu - prostě se otočí, ale neroztáhne se.
Všiml jsem si, že při hraní hry "Autobahn Raser" dřív šlo, že když se z ní vyskočilo přes Task manager a pak se do ní takto znova dostalo, že pak zůstala až do jejího ukončení "bez mřížky" (dost se to pak trhá, ale na ukázku kámošům, co telefon dokáže za grafiku, to bylo OK). Ve FW26 toto nejde, mřížka (tedy jev, kdy telefon sníží rozlišení u 3D hry tak, že hra vypadá až neesteticky) nabíhá obecně dřív a i po tomhle triku s Task managerem tam hned naběhne taky.
Drobná změna se udála v nastavení Sítě - pod volbou Preferovaná síť už je funkční výběr preferovanejch sítí. Ve FW22 mi to přitom zahlásilo chybu "Funkce nepodporována použitou SIM".

(3) Plnohodnotný FW22 (též bez ztráty veškerého nastavení a dat) se případně nahraje zpět stejným způsobem - tj. bez Customizace, akorát do složky instalátoru hodíte zpátky originální (z FW22) soubory W5V022.qapp a W5V022.qapphd.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 2:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanx ccd98.

Now we can update how we won't. Whistle

I think in the next few days, also the EF81 User can see that this forced Customization update was only for the Firmware Developer good.

It seems, that an official Selfupdate is coming for EF81. U can see only the Text on the German site:
http://www.benq-siemens.com/cds/frontdoor/0,2241,de_de_0_132518_0_xcs%253A130989_xcp%253A130873,00.html

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 8:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I guess we need new petition? Or we don't need?

I want good firmware, so come on Smile

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